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Modern version writers do err, not knowing the scriptures or power of God

November 8, 2012
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English: Apostles receive the gift of tongues (Acts 2) (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

It matters not that the learned scribes and Pharisees do err, not knowing the Scriptures they so self-righteously claim to understand so well, just like the Saducees:

Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

They just don’t believe them, they can’t believe the power of God to give us ONE modern-language standard Bible by which to measure all others.

For God speaketh once, yea twice, [yet man] perceiveth it not. – Job 33:14

The entire chapter of I Corinthians 14 is all about speaking tongues in part (Paul says “I speak with tongues more than ye all”, in fact – 1 Cor 14:18), but emphasizes the importance of bearing witness to the lost, NOT in tongues they cannot understand, but in tongues they DO understand.

And note this important fact: the gifts he was talking about, with prophecy and interpretation, are meant for the lost sheep, because the lost sheep does not understand an unknown tongue.

I believe in the gift of tongues, but the word says covet rather to prophesy, even as it also says –note this now all you tongue-mockers—“Forbid NOT to speak with tongues”

BUT imagine now.. If God thought it important that listeners hear the word interpreted in the spirit and by the spirit with the aid of gifts of the spirit, even then, when they even had the Hebrew and some of the Greek scriptures, HOW MUCH MORE today, in this wicked generation, would he want us to have a reliable, inspired canon in languages understood better by this generation?

After all, if you rely on THE Greek and THE Hebrew, what kind of foundation BUILT UPON THE SAND is THAT today? Consider about even today’s Sanhedrin, full of scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees, Essenes and Zealots, and even a few “certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists” who “adjure” by the Jesus “whom Paul preacheth” (lots of New Agers call him “lord” and “master”). Even these over-educated graduates who are bloated with degrees of man’s wisdom and man’s praise, even they cannot agree on which Greek and Hebrew to use, let alone what it says.

What kind of Word of God is THAT?

HOW can you say the Word of God is infallible. You can SAY “the original tongues” but you don’t HAVE any “in the original tongues”.

So God just left us in the dark to figure out how to light the candle to put the pieces together?

Somebody scoffed at the idea of following the leading of the Holy Spirit, but then they claim the leading of the Holy Spirit for Bible translators that give us a cafeteria choice of a hundred different contradicting voices. They should learn something from the simple fishermen and publicans and even a Pharisee who said that he counted all that “as DUNG” that he might win Christ.

We even have these Sanhedrin elites (the Bible calls them “rulers”) preaching to masses of listeners that they “like” this version or that one or the way this one says it better.

How about the way GOD says it?

Let’s ask God about this, whether he wants his word in DEAD languages or living languages?

He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err–Mark 12:27

Think about that. These were guys that had the entire Torah memorized and yet Christ told them they did “GREATLY err, not knowing the scriptures” and “neither the power of God”.

There’s a whole lot more where that came from, but let’s remember 1 Corinthians 14 again:

1 Cor 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Back when I still thought it might be okay to use other modern translations for the benefit of ESL speakers, and it wasn’t so bad, what clinched it for me was the fact that GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION.

KJBO-critics readily agree to this, by mouth, but then the next step is to wonder why God would let the most important element of our lives by which we have to judge EVERYTHING else, why would he leave that to the deceit of our own cacophony of confusing voices and minds?

Over the years, as I have seen the examples of the fruits of this confusion multiply in its direct effect, it gets more and more obvious that God would leave us with one voice for his Word.

Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there be no divisions among you; but [that] ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

It’s natural to differ in doctrine, but at least we should realize that God would not leave us with 100 different interpretation in the same language, like the scriptures say, spiritual leaders are supposed to have discernment to sort one from another, not just cower before the alphabet soup credentials of some scribe.

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ChristianBibleTopics Re: tongues – a gift from god

November 6, 2011

I’ve heard Augustine wrote that the gift of tongues had ceased by the time he wrote. But then if it was “only” for the purpose of evangelization as is claimed, then of course Paul would not have to exhort the brethren to interpret in the chapter used today to excuse forbidding the gift of tongues in 1 Cor. 14.

Here’s the exact verse, which of course trumps anything Augustine had to say, even though he said a lot of other things that were actually Biblical:

1 Corinthians 13:8 ¶Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.}

Now let us reason together: have ANY godly prophecies EVER failed? No they haven’t. “The gifts and callings of God are without repentance”, and yet people use that verse to cover special exemption for today’s heirs of the Sanhedrin and Ahab and Jezebel.

In fact, right after what we know as I Corinthians 13 comes I Corinthians 14, the famous chapter used to criticize tongues as a prayer language, which concludes like this:

1 Corinthians 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

To claim that verse 40 says to forbid tongues directly disobeys verse 13.