Archive for April, 2016

Line upon line, precept upon precept: How to understand prophetic scripture

April 30, 2016

The “falling away” and the “rapture” verses are not isolated pieces. Bible scripture is interpreted by taking as one unit (1) the quoted scripture itself as stated (not more, not less), (2) the immediate scriptural context, (for example the surrounding and preceding and following chapters), (3) the more general context beyond that, and (4) subject-related scripture found elsewhere in the Bible.

But it’s also (4) “line upon line, precept upon precept”, first learn the milk and then the meat, lest one chokes.

From the milk scriptures you get the most important truths about salvation, the holy spirit, faith, eternal life, and so on.

Jesus said no one knows they hour or the day. Not exactly. But since about two thirds of the Bible is prophecy, and half of that is “end-times” prophecy, we are given a massive treasure of information about it. We are even given an unmistakeable seven-year time line in Daniel 9.

No one knows the hour or the day. Jesus knew at that time that some of us would be able to discern the event that begins that seven-year period Daniel spoke about when it happens. Jesus used the present tense at the time also. Part of “line upon line” and “precept upon precept” learning is being able to distinguish such nuances.

Not one jot or tittle shall pass from the law till all be fulfilled. That of course would include the prophets that proved “true” by virtue of the “formula” in the laws of Moses. If the prophet and prophecy glorify God, and the prophecy comes true without one failing, you have a true prophet of God.

That’s why among the prophets that appear in scripture, most of them uttered prophecies that came to pass in their lifetime or shortly afterward. Daniel is an especially relevant one.

The scripture in Daniel is a “key” that opens a better understanding to the events in Revelation, with further understanding coming from the lines and precepts in other “end-times” passages.

A 10 year old boy sang this song until the kidnapper let him go!

April 9, 2016

A 10 year old boy sang this song to his kidnapper until the culprit got sick of it and let him go! 🙂

More pre-Tribulation arguments

April 9, 2016

The set of verses that clearly point to saved Christians being on earth in the Tribulation also mesh well together.

Daniel, Revelation, Thessalonians, Corinthians, Matthew, the other Gospels, Ezekiel, some of the minor prophets, they all mesh into a tapestry that clearly lines up the Rapture happening after the trumpets of Tribulation and preceding the period of the vials full of Wrath.

It’s arithmetic and “rightly dividing the word of God”. There are periods counted of days, weeks, months, years (times), specific incidents “in the midst of the week”, after which you get troubled times, signs leading up to it all, and in Daniel those that “understand among the people shall instruct many” and those that “do know their God” shall “do exploits”.

There are also signs in the descriptions of those days that imply that God’s children may be protected in a special way, not just the 144 thousand.

Pre-trib teachers tell us repeatedly that post-Tribulation is a “new” thing. I have had discussions in which I point to Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5 where Paul says otherwise way back then and they come back and repeat that.

Repetition is not an argument against my response to the previous iteration of the same statement. PAUL HIMSELF said to STOP saying that the Lord will come any minute because that day shall NOT come until that man of PERDITION shall be revealed. Obviously meaning it’s not until after that. By the way, it makes most sense that it’s “in the midst of the week”, or maybe after. And that makes me think that though scripture does not say it will be public, this passage that the Antichrist will be revealed first (Thess) in my opinion implies a public pact.

And then they say God won’t let his children go through Tribulation because he said we are not appointed unto wrath. When I point out that there is a period of Tribulation followed by the Rapture followed by a period of worse plagues of Wrath, they just repeat what they said before.

Some of them will ask for scripture and actually consider it. I did, Kent Hovind did, other pastors and scholars and saints do.

He separated them out after Egypt had their fill of plagues. Not until. Your example bounces back like a rubber ball.

—Then they refer to the plagues of Egypt to say that God told Pharaoah to let my people go. This is a strange reference for the pre-Tribulation argument because the Israelites were still in Egypt during those plagues.

I have already answered the Egyptian plagues issue, before.

Repetition will get us in circles. Dizzy.

I have been saturated with pre-Tribulation doctrine from my youngest days in my Dad’s preaching in the Pentecostal church he pastored. A doctrine that denomination and another he co-founded declares in their doctrinal statements. It saturates the Christian radio networks and the biggest mega-church pastors and televangelists with prophecy programs. And reviews of the Left Behind series, plus a couple of the based-on movies.

I’ve heard all the arguments all my life and still do and have heard nothing new or convincing lately on that side. It only took a few scriptures to convince me otherwise. Among other things, I’ve seen very few attempts to respond to many of the scriptures I shared.

The Bereans were more noble.

My view changed on this and on several other doctrines under the weight of scripture.

I have continued with this mostly because many have not been able to see this perspective elsewhere, or not much, or have not thought about it. There is a reason that this view is spreading among the strongest Genesis-to-Revelation believers, among those that search the Scriptures.

Consider that from the same side of the fence there was an accusation it is new (it is not as seen in 1 Th 5:4, which also addresses the any-second now view), and at the same time it is accused of being as old as the Jesuit order. Actually it is as old as Daniel 9 and Daniel 11.

When is the “Rapture”

April 4, 2016

Well, this post is mostly to clear up the confusion of the “post-millenialists”.

Daniel obviously refers in 9:27 to a contiguous seven-year period. That lines up with “time, times and half a time” as we all know. This time period is repeated half a dozen times in scripture so as to be clear about it.

I say “contiguous” because “in the midst of the week” is when the AC breaks the covenant and sets up the “abomination that maketh desolate spoken of by Daniel the prophet” and THAT is the link between Daniel 9:27 and Matthew 24. Jesus said explicitly that THAT act starts off “The Tribulation”. So YES it’s hard to fathom I know but man oh man God help us be ready for worse.

Jesuits today, and their dark master the new usurper coup-installed (in my opinion) socialist Anti-Pope, are delighted to see so-called “anti-Jesuits” put the Antichrist so far in the past, because that takes them off the hook for the plans they have for us, in cahoots or in sync with the other dark societies.

So associating the stoning of Stephen, and the Roman destruction of the temple, both, as within the Last Week of Daniel does not compute.

Both the Mark and The Bomb would make it worse than anytime in history. The Hiroshima bomb and the Nagasaki wiped out a minority Christian community, but they were the biggest Christian populations in Japan in those days.

Bitcoin looks like an anti-government thing, which is why some libertarians embrace it, but it may be a Trojan horse to get people accustomed to an embedded “wallet ID” that connects to the Web. Sweden has announced plans to convert to 100 percent electronic currency in only five years. Central bankers are publicly discussing it.

At anarcho-capitalist web news portal and economics web site there are few “Austrian school economists”-* who are sort of predicting both a move to pure e-currency (my term for it) because that way they have control and access to 100% of our bank accounts. That way they can also go into negative interest rates to help them keep the green paper pig and its cohorts from inflating (devaluating) out of control.

*-Austrian economists are associated with free market economics, and they show how socialist and Keynesian (print more paper pigs!) economists destroy prosperity. Like what David said.

World geopolitics today line up with what you would expect for leading into the prophecies of Ezekiel 33-34 and 38-39, and Daniel, and Matthew 24 (and its gospel counterparts), 2 Thessalonians, 2 Corinthians, and Revelations.