Archive for June, 2013

Atheists cherry-pick the verses they use

June 22, 2013

True that “so many have used Christianity to justify their crimes”, but then every evil man has used any kind of moral cover available to cover their own crimes, and the powerful have always used whatever excuse sticks.

It’s ironic because throughout history also, it has been Bible-believing Christians that have been the major victims of the crimes of Christians, the latter being nothing more than identity thieves, claiming credentials from the one who condemns their evil deeds.

Very ironic too, to say “cherry-pickers”, because atheists are the biggest cherry-pickers of the verses in the Bible they use to try to contradict it, while they ignore the ones that contradict them.

There are plenty of people who claim any number of things. There are people who say they answer to God, but act like they do not have a God to answer to. It is an idiot’s logic to say that proves there is no God to answer to.

God is real, he will not be mocked, and Lenin suffered in this life no doubt knowing what Stalin would do to his other colleagues, Stalin suffered thinking that everybody was out to kill him to take over like he did, men reap what they sow.

Man’s free will and salvation and God’s sovereignty

June 22, 2013
English: Resurrection of Christ

English: Resurrection of Christ (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

—A Calvinist said: “Are you saying that a man can come to faith in Jesus of his own free will apart from grace? Where do you find this in the Scripture?”

 

I don’t say that, because coming to faith in Jesus Christ, whether of his own free will or not, is accepting the grace of God by definition.

 

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

 

If I give you a free gift, you can take it or leave it. If you reject it, your loss. If you take it, and benefit from it, you cannot say you earned anything, you cannot say that you had anything to do with having that gift at all, because it was my doing and it was not your doing. And so with salvation.

 

God says, here’s salvation. Take it or leave it. Most people leave it. I do not claim to know how it works, but God does. “God is not a man, that he should lie”. We are created in God’s image, as sovereign deciders so to speak. The gift is for everyone, “whosoever will”.

 

If you concede that man has a free will that chooses salvation, but God is the one that chooses to put that will into his heart, this is a squishy deal. It is no better logic than to say that God chooses you for salvation because of the fact that you chose to receive the free gift.

 

It’s a mutually exclusive argument.

 

You can “accept” man’s free will in accepting salvation all you want to say you do, but then you contradict yourself by saying he made it impossible for them to accept salvation. Besides, you have to say that God decided to create the human race so he could throw the vast majority of them into hell, since he picks out some to save.

 

But then alas, that contradicts this verse that tells us the original purpose of hell:

 

Matt 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: