“After the Tribulation”

After the Tribulation: THe Pre-Tribulation Rapture Fraud Exposed” Official Movie:

I am delighted with this video presentation. After more than 40 years sharing this message of the post-Tribulation with anyone who listened when the subject arose, I am delighted to see such a change among Bible-believing Christians, so pass on my thanks to you and the others who worked on putting it together to help accelerate the spread of the post-Tribulation truth. I learned how a couple of verses also apply to related subjects too….

I was glad to see that Hovind had come to acknowledge the post-Trib view as Biblical. Not for nothing he avoided it before as he said. I remember even Hal Lindsey in his first big book, “The Late Great Planet Earth”, in the chapter where he said he believed in “pre-Trib”, he confessed in print that he could not find any verses to back it up. Zero! (Of course since then he decided to sue the same verses these other guys use).

And incidentally, by implication, the fact that God does not have “respect unto persons”, treating this group differently from that group, or having one rulebook for people and a different one for other people.

God is not the author of the confusion of Bible-babble translations, and God is not the author of the confusion of which dispensation applies to this group or that group.

It seems the pre-Trib doctrine got a bit of its own wind (hot air) independent of dispensations, because some of them use the gathering in Matthew 24 from the four corners of “heaven” to say we were already up there.

An Assemblies couple that owned a package store I used for awhile once told me a visiting evangelist had said the Lord told him directly that He was coming back before the Tribulation. They showed me how he had preached from 2 Thessalonians that the Antichrist would not be revealed until the Rapture happened first. They say that the “Spirit will let” is a reference to the saved still being here. I took them verse by verse through the context of it –the chronology is obvious– and told them to read it once more, forget about me and the pastor and the preacher and just read what it says.

After quietly reading the passage, she looked up and that was it. It was 180 degrees and another few people saw the truth.

There were 11,665 views showing when I saw it, may it get many more.

The truly saved will not be fooled but many of them will be surprised I think, but this may help divide goats from sheep.

In another note, Cyrus Scofield —who popularized in America the brand-spanking-new “post-Tribulation rapture” promulgated by the hustler Charles Darby in England. Scofield produced his extra-Biblical and un-Biblical notes that contradicted the King James Bible he so much despised, as can be seen ine his understated introduction. Elsewhere I believe he complained that Americans would not give up their King James Bible like his mentor Charles Darby was pushing in England.

The guy was apparently “converted” in St. Louis while in prison for fraud.

He should have been put back in for fraud when he came out with his notes that contradicted the Bible while saying he was “explaining” it. Gap theory and all.

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3 Responses to ““After the Tribulation””

  1. “After the Tribulation” « Trutherator's Weblog Says:

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  2. Irv Says:

    PRETRIB RAPTURE STEALTH !

    Many evangelicals believe that Christ will “rapture” them to heaven years before the second coming and (most importantly) well BEFORE Antichrist and his “tribulation.” But Acts 2:34, 35 reveal that Jesus is at the Father’s right hand in heaven until He leaves to destroy His earthly foes at the second coming. And Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven with the Father “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. (“The Rapture Question,” by the long time No. 1 pretrib authority John Walvoord, didn’t dare to even list, in its scripture index, the above verses! They were also too hot for John Darby – the so-called “father of dispensationalism” – to list in the scripture index in his “Letters”!)
    Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! The “rest” for “all them that believe” is also tied to such destruction in II Thess. 1:6-10! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who’d be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the end of trib “death” (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which Scofield views as Israel’s posttrib resurrection!) It’s amazing that the Olivet Discourse contains the “great commission” for the church but not even a hint of a pretrib rapture for the church!
    Many don’t know that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 this “rapture” was stretched forward and turned into an idolized separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which evangelical scholars overwhelmingly rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” [“gathering”] in 2:1 can happen – the height of desperation!). Google “Walvoord Melts Ice” for more on this.
    Other Google articles on the 183-year-old pretrib rapture view include “X-Raying Margaret,” “Margaret Macdonald’s Rapture Chart,” “Pretrib Rapture’s Missing Lines,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “The Unoriginal John Darby,” “Catholics Did NOT Invent the Rapture,” “The Real Manuel Lacunza,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” “Deceiving and Being Deceived,” “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” “Famous Rapture Watchers,” and “Morgan Edwards’ Rapture View” – most by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” (the most accurate and documented book on pretrib rapture history which is obtainable by calling 800.643.4645).

  3. trutherator Says:

    Just one correction to all that, Scofield’s notes made it a PRE-tribulation rapture, part of the dispensations deceit…

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