Hear Ye Hear Ye! See Why the Rapture Comes After the Tribulation #1

Hear Ye, Hear Ye! See Why the Rapture Comes After the Tribulation

Pre-tribbers are circling the wagons against the fast-growing numbers of Christian believers who are seeing in the Bible that the “Rapture” will happen after the period of Tribulation. This posting is an answer to one web article with a list of seven supposed reasons the Rapture cannot come after the Tribulation.

I love lists. They give a chance to show the truth as against the best that deniers and deceived can offer.

Seven Reasons Why the Rapture Cannot Come After the Tribulation
http://www.rapturesolution.com/beechick/Intro/7reasons.htm

1.The known day and the unknown day cannot be the same day.

“But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only” (Matthew 24:36). “In such an hour as you think not the Son of man comes” (Matthew 24:44).


This is one for the famous “Duh, dude”. State an obvious logical truism and then quote a verse as if it proves it which in this case does not.

Please note that this verse is in the present verb tense, and was spoken to those who were in his hearing. Nobody in Jesus’ day knew the day nor the hour, and Jesus even apparently excluded himself in his person at the time from knowing.

Not also that someone who uses this as a back-door method to prove that Jesus is coming any time gets backfire. During this modern generation, they are expecting Jesus’ return at any time, therefore Matthew 24:44 disqualifies their any-time-now Rapture.

And in Matthew 24:32 he makes clear that when the time is getting close, we can know.

BUT in the same chapter Jesus makes VERY clear that he is coming back after the Tribulation:

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Okay, to put the time line together:

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,…
Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation,…
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days…
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven…

He’s referring to Daniel’s prophecy:
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The “one week” is where the predicted seven years rulership of the Antichrist comes from. It is a direct translation from the Hebrew word “seven”. They use this word to mean not only the number, but also for a “week”, and another reference is to a period of seven years.

The meaning is also defined in the context of other prophecies in both Daniel and in Revelation and in Jesus’ own declarations that we find in Matthew 24. In other scriptures that refer to the last half of the same seven-year period (“..in the midst of the week..”) you find counts of the number of days, the number of weeks, and the number of months, that lead up to the end of these last few days, which of course culminates the end of the Tribulation period, the Rapture, and then the Wrath of the vials of Revelation poured upon the earth up to Armageddon.

So Jesus’ admonition to the apostles that “no man knows” was absolutely and indisputably for the listeners of the time. In other contexts the pre-Tribulation preachers have no problem distinguishing between one audience and another.

Even while blowing right through the fact that Jesus was using the present tense when he said that, and that he was speaking to those disciples.

When the pre-tribbers acknowledge that there are people who are here on earth during the Tribulation that are saved, they acknowledge that there is a selection of audiences to which the scriptures speak. In the pre-Trib world, the unprepared are the ones who are saved after their pre-trib Rapture, and it is those who are taken by surprise.

Consider that Jesus used the Ark to illustrate what he meant by “no man knows”. In Genesis we see that Noah’s’ rain and flood overtook the unwary and the ungodly, BUT! Noah knew exactly when it was time to go into the Ark. Noah was not surprised at all.

God gave Noah seven days’ warning:

Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

For Noah, once the rain started and his family was safely ensconced in the Ark, there was no danger or interaction with the ungodly.

For us in these last few days, weeks, months that lead up to this end stage of this world’s end, we have all the signs Jesus gave us but we still don’t know the day nor the hour.

We do know from both Daniel 9 and Matthew 24, however, that the clock starts ticking on the last seven years when the “Covenant” is signed by the “prince that shall come” (the Antichrist: Dan 9:26), and that Jesus identifies the Tribulation period as starting “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place” (Matt 24:15). He is referring to the “overspreading of abominations” in Daniel 9:27.

–Alan

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One Response to “Hear Ye Hear Ye! See Why the Rapture Comes After the Tribulation #1”

  1. Maggie Says:

    Joe Ortiz Exposes !

    Joe Ortiz exposes some dishonest rapture gimmicks in his Apr. 10, 2010 “End Times Passover.”
    Go there and read “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy”!

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